plan, report it to congress to be considered without debate -- i shouldn't say "without debate." without filibuster, without delay, and any member that can offer a substitute amendment that achieves 75-year solvency can also call their measure at the same time. let us have this chance to have this debate and to make sure we have solvency for social security that will affect not only all of our lives but the lives of our children and beyond. that, to me, is a responsible thing to do. medicare -- much tougher. medicare goes broke in 12 years. 12 years. why? well, because low lo and behold, today 10,000 americans reached the age of 65. we knew it was coming, but as the baby boomers show up, their demand for services that they have paid for and i vested in throughout their working lives are going to continuing to he grow. those people who say there's too much government spend, we've got to stop the government spending, i want to ask them, are you going to a to the millions of americans who paid into social security for a lifetime, paid into medicare for a lifetime, that we're going